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"This Charming Man"
Rough Trade RTT136
Produced by John Porter
Rough Trade RTT136
Produced by John Porter
(except 2 produced by Troy Tate)
(tracks 6-7 remix Francois Kevorkian @ Right Track Studios, New York)
October/December 1983
Tracks:
1 This Charming Man (Manchester)
2 Jeane
3 Accept Yourself
October/December 1983
Tracks:
1 This Charming Man (Manchester)
2 Jeane
3 Accept Yourself
4 Wonderful Woman
5 This Charming Man (London)
6 This Charming Man (New York Vocal)
7 This Charming Man (New York Instrumental)
8 This Charming Man (Single Remix)
Sources:
1-4 from "This Charming Man" WEA YZ0001CD1, 1992
5-8 from "This Charming Man" WEA YZ0001CD2, 1992
Restoration:
Gentle EQ as needed, a smidgen of tasteful noise reduction if required, and very cautious, gentle peak limiting.
Artwork for this, and every other release we'll be featuring, was sourced from the amazingVulgar Picture treasure trove of sleeve artwork scans (with permission).
Notes:
This was John Porter's first production with the band. It was also the first recording with Marr laying a million guitar tracks down on the recording; one can argue that had Porter not worked on this record, the Smiths - and specifically Johnny Marr - would not have ultimately received all the acclaim now given.
There are "Manchester" and "London" versions (we'll discuss "New York" in a moment) because immediately after the Peel recording session, the band and Porter attempted to record the single in a London studio. Not happy with the results, and with Geoff Travis wanting a more Northern sound, the band regrouped in Manchester a week later and re-recorded the whole thing. So the "Manchester" version became the well-known single, and the "London" version appeared on the 12" as a B-side. "Accept Yourself" and "Wonderful Woman" both came from the London sessions, while "Jeane" was a remnant from the Troy Tate sessions (apparently always being tagged as a B-side track).
New York producer Francois Kevorkian was then handed the multitracks to follow U2's lead in making "New York" versions for club airings; hence the two "New York" variants. While one may laugh at the ultimate dancefloor usefulness of these tracks, allegedly Morrissey and Marr despised them and blamed Travis for releasing this against their wishes. I don't buy it for a second, but that's revisionism for you. More reconstructions than remixes, I don't mind either NY variant, but as far as the canon goes, they're eminently disposable.
Tracks 3, 5, 7 and 8 are no longer officially available, as they last saw release on the now out-of-print 1992 WEA singles.
Happy new year!
ReplyDeleteLong time coming...worth the wait. thanks
ReplyDeleteGreat stuff. ;-) Happy New Year, lads!
ReplyDeleteThank you very much!!!
ReplyDeleteHappy New Year.
ReplyDeleteAs with the JD/NO material this is music that I love. It touches me very deeply.
Any chance of getting the same treatment with Sandie Shaw's "Hand in Glove" 12"?
My Best Wishes.
Carlos from Madrid.
So, the well-known single was the 'Manchester' version, so what was the 'single remix'? That puzzled me in 1992, and if I ever found out I've forgotten.
ReplyDeleteHa ha! Love the alternate artwork for the new year.
ReplyDeleteThank you *very* much.
ReplyDeleteThank you for all your hard work! Morrissey and The Smiths forever!
ReplyDeleteHey! Welcome Back A.L. Hope you had a great Xmas.
ReplyDeleteThe other odd thing about the 1992 CD2 (apart from the totally unnecessary single remix, which, in my humble opinion, only succeeded in making the inferior 'London' version sound even weedier) was that it had the 'Manchester' version on twice - once under the 'Manchester' suffix, and again listed as 'Original Single Mix'. Obviously the compiler, in a frenzy of completeism, failed to spot that they are one & the same.
@Carlos from Madrid: Patience, my friend ;)
ReplyDelete@Keir: I have no idea what the "Single Remix" is/was. It's different, but only minorly. If I had to guess, and a guess is all it is, is that the "remix" was on the TCM reels when Warners picked up the catalog, and in a fit of sanity released it. It's different enough in the mix that I can see it being a last-gasp attempt to salvage the "London" version - as that's what it's a remix of - before Travis sent the lads back up to Manchester to give it another go.
@David: I thought of including the "Original Single Mix" to see if anyone would complain about excessive reduplication *within the same download*. Obviously I came to my senses.
As an addendum to my last comment, I do love Marr's emphasized descending guitar runs during the "he knows so much about these things" refrain in the Single Remix version - at least it's emphasized more on the remix than the main "London" version.
ReplyDeleteJust to further complicate things, does 'Manchester' sound very different on 7" and 12"? I vaguely remember a La's single that did and as far as I could tell it was the same mix, but mastered very differently.
ReplyDeleteThanks Merry F...ing Xmas!!
ReplyDeleteAs far as I remember, my copy of CD2 also had the Peel session version on it.
ReplyDeleteI would presume thatAL is going to do the Peel Sessions 12"??
ReplyDeleteJust like to say "Well worth the wait! Thank you"
Happy New Year!
Thanks so much for the amazing work. Happy Holidays!!
ReplyDeleteSurely track 3 and 5 are still commercially available? They were included on the Singles CD-box as late as in 2009 (or has that one already been sold out?)
ReplyDelete...and so was track 7 btw.
ReplyDeleteThanx!!!
ReplyDeletexxx
Em
The singles boxes are sold out.
ReplyDeleteThere are no plans to do the Peel single as it wasn't a RT release.
ReplyDeleteSo, what happened to the Peel Session version?
ReplyDeleteThe peel version is on hatful and is still available. I didn't consider it necessary for this project.
ReplyDeletere: Peel Session version - I understand, and that makes sense. Thanks for the reply, Analog Loyalist. :)
ReplyDeleteNever sounded better. Thank you, thank you!!
ReplyDeleteMy 1990 Japanese WEA CD single contains 10 tracks:
ReplyDelete1. This Charming Man - 2:44
2. This Charming Man (Manchester) - 2:42
3. This Charming Man (London) - 2:47
4. This Charming Man (New York Vocal) - 5:35
5. This Charming Man (Instrumental) - 4:19
6. This Charming Man (Peel Session) - 2:44
7. This Charming Man (single remix) - 2:46
8. Jeane - 3:05
9. Wonderful Woman - 3:09
10. Accept Yourself - 3:56
I can't really hear any differences between #1 and #2. Anybody know what's up with that?
@Jake: That's because.... drumroll please... 1 and 2 are identical (minus extra blank seconds on either end of each song. Warners were clueless.
ReplyDeleteComparing the Hatful of Hollow Peel This Charming Man and the 92 CD2 Peel version, I have to say the Hatful version is quite muddled and bass-heavy. Do you have a preference as to which is truer to the original recording?
ReplyDeleteThis Charming Man (New York Vocal Mix) is available currently on the cd Retro:Active - Rare & Remixed 4
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